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Monday, July 27, 2015

Definition of Theology




From Whit:

Theology (the all of G) in this paradigm everyone and everything is God. Humans are actors creating the drama of Gods relation(which can never be apart from itself and therefore acts as God in each and every moment).  In this paradigm God is using human being for theories of his relation to another God.

From Aaron:

My definition of theology would be the study of God or higher power. My theology is based on what I believe to be the divine inspired, without error, Word of God i.e. the Bible. What is interesting to Whit's comments is that Adam was made in the image of God.  Relating to Whit or finding common ground with him would be to say that all of knowledge is essentially because of God or in other words about God or not God.  The created is depended on the creator regardless of ones believe in the creator.  The fish inside the fish bowl can't say that it doesn't believe in water or the bowl all it wants but someone put it there for it to live.

Monday, July 13, 2015

Fallen Angels



From Whit:

While I do not believe in demons, I do believe in bad/fallen angels.  These types do not believe in God and only pursue their own power.  In their mind, God is an evolution of power and not a sanctity within their hearts.  As far as possession, they can inhabit humans and cause all kinds of problems, but they can never do more than God allows. Simply put, be kind to strangers for you never know whether they are an angel or not.

*all humans become angels

From Aaron:

It seems that Whit is wrestling with the spiritual beings mentioned in scripture and their identity.  I personally wonder what Whit's understanding of evil is.  What role does Satan play in the unseen realms of this world?  In scripture there is clear reference to a non-compliant third of heaven.  A great rebellion led by Satan.  My understanding is that Satan and the demons were all angels that turned from God.  I find it interesting that Whit believes in fallen Angels and believes they are fallen because they don't believe in God.  It seems that is in fact what the rebellion of Satan and the demon legions is all about.  They, what ever they is, did not believe in God either nor would they have rebelled if they believed in God and His supremacy.

Scripture does not agree with Whit's asterisks comment.  Humans and Angels are different spiritual beings created by God.

I'll add scripture references later.

Tuesday, June 16, 2015

Commentary on Genesis 1 and 2



From Whit:
After all the Bible does not state Adam was the first human.  It is simply a story for how the characters of Adam and Eve were created and came to know knowledge.  Also, their "eyes were opened" perhaps referring to a new sense involving vision.  For all we know the opening of the eyes could refer to a multi-dimensional seeing or greater sense.  And when the Bible tells of Adam and Eve's creation, He does not say Adam was the first.  It is our assumption that Adam was the first; for why else would God refer to Himself as "us." When God refers to Himself as "one of us," He is entitling man (Adam and Eve) to life amongst His presence. Having banished Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden He still states that Eve should give birth again and Adam shall work the land.   So while they are banished from the Holiest of areas they may still live.  So considering God is omnipresent (& this is my faith) He is still with humanity and our fruit bearing generations.  So, what are we to think of God's use of the title and expression "us" when it refers to Himself? Wether the expression "us" refers to Adam as new creation and altogether worthwhile novelty; or wether, Adam is a series of created humans God has given life and vision to; we may never know.

 From Aaron:
Any time we read the bible we need to ask the question, "what am I assuming here?"  We have to be careful even with our knowledge, perspective, etc. in trying to read and apply the bible to our lives.  Needing to ask this question in interpreting and applying what I believe is God's inspired inerrant truth is what is so helpful when getting insights from Whit.  He isn't afraid of the big question. He puts it all on the table. He wonders about certain phrases and helps me personally look at a passage of scripture in a whole new light.  With that said, when Whit speaks to God's use of the word "us" my understanding of that word use would attach to a trinitarian belief in God.  In other words, God is made of the three parts; God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.  One passage that comes to mind in thinking about this is John 1:1-5 when it says,  
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." 
What I find a great mystery is speaking to Whit's first point about Adam being the first human.  Continuing with this train of thought would be looking later at Cain. Who did Cain marry? After Cain is cursed in Genesis 4 who would kill him if he was the first offspring of Adam and Eve?  
These are a great questions to think about but my bottom-line is to understand them as God's revelation and to the best of my limited brain can handle try to understand and apply to my life.